bona natural seal on white oak

Which possibly suggests installation issue. I am in the same predicament and not wanting to settle for maple! Many people would give their eyeteeth for floors of that quality. If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. The wood is from Cochrans Lumber in Berryville, VA. That means you relate clean with shiny. Which means something is sitting on, grinding down, pressing into or just plain 'sitting on' your floors every second of every day. You either pay the piper todayor you pay a couple more pipers in 15 yearsThe choice is yours. :). Was a bit of a risky choice, went with a pretty unusual/bold extra wide 5" wide pattern and I think it turned out well. We will use 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD on top of the sealer. BTW -/ we learned that the color of the wood is different and takes the sealer or stain differently depending on where it is from. We learned a lot from seeing the color and pattern differences between the American white oak and Norwegian white oak (and white oak from other areas). Is that really that difficult? Cant wait to see the reveal, @mtpo - Floors are looking fabulous! They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. So in my mind better to research and ask questions than not. :), @bowmeister67 and @widdy23 I used exactly what bowmeister said , 1 coat of Bona Nordic seal and 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. Use natural seal. I wish we did three coats of the Traffic HD as he have a ton of traffic (three kids and a dog!) I could also put hot pots on the stainless. HELP!!! Thank you, I don't know the specific name of it. Did 4 coats of nordic and 3 traffic hd on 1 dollar a sq foot utility 4 inch white oak but some was red oak as well but still my dog likes it. Hey Merrilyn, looks like we are in the same boat. Skip the 'money saving'. Also did the installer abrade between the seal & finish coats? My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. My husband and I had 5" white oak floors installed and we are like the look of one coat of Bona Nordic Seal and two coats of satin water based polyurethane on our floors. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. NaturalSeal adds the LEAST amount of 'colour' (either white or yellowdoesn't matter) of all the sealants in the Bona line up. They are 7&1/4 inch baseboards though if that helps. Seems quite excessive but want to make sure I understand before I bring this issue up. The company that supplied the raw wood and the installer both recommend Bona products. Christina check out Rubio monocoat Gris belge Havana Slate grey These greys are very popular and with the matte sheen you will absolutely love them. My installer has Amber i think yhat will be too dark. Thanks. The sand/finish guys sampled natural seal, amber seal and IntenSeal. Its no different than my quartz countertop and backsplash that also should not have acidic or harsh chemicals, and Im sure most professional contractors wouldnt recommended against quartz behind a stove. Nora are you installing tower or Windsor? When it came to a finish, I didn't want any red or yellow coloration. Ask youself, do you WANT to see a floor that shines AFTER you clean it? Im glad we didnt go darker. @tkgriff I love your floors and am thinking about going for much the same look! This is a platform for people to help one another. We are building next year and making decisions now. I believe you can put Titan on top of Pullman's and then Fortico on top of Titanif you like Pallman's colors. For someone to get this done 'properly' takes training. Your floors are beautiful. The 'oil based' finishes that base costs of a finish allow 45 MINUTES of wet edge. Thank you SJ McCarthy for your expertise and explanation of time between coats, drying time and curing time. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. I prefer to see three coats of finishbut if you MUST save money while still using Traffic HD then you can go down to two coats. We were going after the Studio McGee house look attached. And this will continue to occur until the finish is "done right". The floors are being installed and finished by Brazilian Floors (they have several locations in the D.C. metro area). Looking for something similar to yours, thank you! The other two will give you more color. @renee, can you post photos of the completed project? That means a single guy can take his time. Classic seal gave a deeper color but I found it to be too yellow. It will not etch like Marble, but has a marble like appearance. Here are some of my samples. It may come in other thicknesses too. The builder already ordered the wood. It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. Can you apply the Bona NaturalSeal and then apply a couple coats of something like the Renner? My suggestion is to figure out what type of 'cleaning' person you are. Any help appreciated! That's how building law works. Thanks so much! I'm sorry but this finish is not "salvageable". Mega One is a clear non-yellowing finish. It has been a nightmare trying to find this look in my area. Buyer beware, you should be nervous. Thank you for asking. Here are our raw floors right now. However, I guess Ill put off retirement for a few more years to make up the cost. That seems light to me, but he said it was sufficient (that word doesnt make me feel convinced). The advanced technology formula provides speed and high performance for hardwood floor finishing professionals. Directly before me was one of the mirrors I have mentioned, in which I saw reflected the tall shape of my friend, Mr. Jennings, leaning over my shoulder, and reading the page at which I was If you like the look of your raw white oak floors then NaturalSeal is your best bet. It won't be cheap but it will be fast. The instructions on the bottle is straight forward. I guess it could help but honestly unless someone has your exact home with your ecxat light it is still just a guess . It is the way it is normally done. I would bet it would come in at the same price as a "buff and coat" (national average = $3/sf). Oil wax floor finishes are poor choices for cabnet finishes. And using Bona Traffic HD is a MASSIVE upgrade over Mega. thanks, All! It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. @HU-6868130 your herringbone looks amazing! If he can't get it donethen hire someone NEW and send the bill to the original contractor. YesBona Traffic HD is MUCH more expensive than over-the-counter stuff. Web108K views 6 years ago. If youre really interested, Ill call the installer Brazilian Floors and see if he still has the info. WebBona Natural Seal stain on white oak hardwood floor and 3 coats Bona Traffic HD Matte on top. G&S generally makes great comments and has solid analysis but in this case he assumed something not in evidence and commented based on that. Sigh. Every client after that training will pay extra for his/her expertise. * I didn't know that Classic Sealer added yellow that Natural Sealer did not but I didn't have anything to compare it to. Our cabinet maker hasn't been able to match what we are hoping for. professional finishes are sold in gallons only. Hi everyone! Due to it's ingredients, It is mainly used for custom color mixes with dyes and Bona's sport paint line for insane color schemes. Bona is designed to be 'hot coated' that is to say it does BEST when coat 1 and coat 2 (like sealant and then 1st coat of finish) come in quick succession (less than 24 hours but nothing less than the 'minimum time between coats'). @ Moran.now I see where this has come up. If it does nothing: Take a piece of masking tape (not painters tape). Has anyone applied the Bona Nordic and HD to white oak stair partsnewel posts/rails ? Bona Traffic HD is 10 times EASIER to find (but a snick harder to work with). @Renee Czeryba, Natural SEALER and Traffic HD. It should have had one extra coat of protectant. Working Bona Traffic is 10x harder than off the shelf stuff. We got to see snippets of the finished floor today, and we love what we see. Take the time to try all of the sample combinations. Also thank you for post and thank you too other posters. One other question. The refinishers used "Bona Dri-Fast Natural Stain", "Bona Classic Sealer"*, and "Bona Mega Satin" (two coats). If you like to see a shiny floor RIGHT AFTER you clean the floor (because it makes you feel like you've accomplished something) then you are what I refer to as a 'clean-shiny' person. I am posting some final outcome pictures in different rooms and lighting. It could be as low as $2/sf. They achieve 95% FULL CURE after 5 days. Or Loba 2K + their stain lineyou get the idea. It was not supportive or helpful. Maybe a snick less because they won't be using any product. We just installed 5 white oak throughout our home. I should add that I planned to use Bona Traffic HD finish as well since I read how durable it is and how it goes on clear without yellowing the wood. He installed the floors beautifully, but installed red oak even though I showed him a sample of pre-finished white stained white oak. Ive had 5 character grade white oak installed. I purchased white oak high grade for our railings and black iron - our floors are Provenza At Ease and my railings match GREAT now, but need to seal them - what do you recommend? Another thread I found talks about Rubio mono coat. Bona Naturale will also do this. The people there were very patient with us and very helpful. Yes, thsts bleached and toned oak with a matte finish. My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. Unfortunately I don't remember how many layers of each. Anyway, good luck. I'm thinking of using HI-MACS LG Hausys solid surface countertops, which I think is similar to Corian. I will have to follow up. The coating should not come up. Red and white oak floors are increasing in popularity. I believe they put Bona Mega One over the top just for example, but we will be using Bona Traffic HD. I might use the Baro for my cabinetsor the Pallman's Natural. Flooring guys are the best since they are redoing to make me happy. I bought a cleaner made for the finish (similar to m quartz) and touch up is easy if needed. The training may be 'free' but the cost to fly there, rent hotel room + food for 3 days (and lose 3 days worth of income) and fly back take money. white oak hardwood flooring. By the way, did you use any fillers to fill the knots and gaps between the planks? . We are wrapping up our new build and the floor stain choice was today. Eager to see what you chose and how it turned out. Beyond The Grain Custom Design, Toms River, NJ (2023) We tried a few Duraseal stains on samples and none of them were right. Can you share the color? :), Absolutely gorgeous. It may not be the same price you would get if you buy it yourself from Cochrans. The picture I attached is with one coat of Bona Mega using no stain. The wood Is white oak from Norway (from Cochrans in Virginia). Just found out distributors only sale in gallon sizeso its not going to be an option for metoo expensive to pay for gallons in seal and finish just to test it. If the floor looks as good as this little exposed area, Ill be really HAPPY. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. Maybe instead of wanting it natural, I really wanted it lighter rather than a medium to darker stain. I can reject non-essential cookies by clicking Manage Preferences. Streetshoe by basics + their stain line. We have decided to go with a mix of white and light wood for the cabinets. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances? The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. Carly, please provide source for your floors, exactly what Im looking for. I read on the Bona website (and others) that TrafficHD coverage was 350-400sf/gal. and I wish we had another layer of protection. They're supposed to start the finish tomorrow morning and it is Bona MEGA clear. Dry finish. I am sorry , Thank you!! A sand/refinish of an existing floor = $4-$5/sf. Je peux rejeter les cookies non essentiels en cliquant sur Grer mes prfrences . Also what do you mean by toned oak? carlyhow many coats of HD did they apply? I personally feel a reputable stone supplier and fabricator will educate you in mineral composition, stone formation, and inform you how and where the stones are quarried. Use Bona Naturaseal for the look you want. Great photos and beautiful floors! WebOur new build has white oak hardwoods & Id LOVE to have them look like these. Two coats of Bona Traffic HD Commercial Matte This is a higher cost process, since it is a top of the line water based poly that prevents yellowing over time. P.P.S. By clicking Accept I agree to this, as further described in the Houzz Cookie Policy. Not always as expected. DH wants to just go with light maple cabinets and I am tempted. So due to budget going to have to give this a go on my own. The good news is the installer will have learned his lesson: do NOT under bid a project just to win it. I would use Bona natural seal or classic with traffic hd extra matte. See the photo below if you open the photo you will see the raw wood. Is This the Year Blue and Green Kitchen Cabinets Edge Out White? Let's see how long this finish last. @mtpo - Your floors look BEAUTIFUL, thank you for sharing the pics, I can't wait to see the final product. Heres how to keep them that way, Let the sunshine in. Its a shame since it could be helpful for others. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. Granite and Quartzite have completely different make-ups. If, Bona Mega is your budget. They can use a big machine with a screening pad to get up most of that gunk. True Quartzite is very dense and many are not prone to staining. We tried a few Duraseal stains on samples and none of them were right. All of their materials will have to be paid for (as part of your contract), but it can be done. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances? The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. The correct answer should be "nothing at all". San and finish guys come in next. It's a installer issue. (BTW - We ran into the issue with getting character grade mixed into our select a bit too, very frustrating!). They did a great job. Part of me wishes we went satin finish bc I realized I do like a little sheen on a floor (just washed look). We want to stay away from adding a yellow, green, pink or orange tint to the floor. Not quite "honey oak" but not far from it. The one that Bona advertizes as clear made our wood look a tiny bit orange. They are not even good choices for low care floors. The fabricator was really nice and pulled whole Quartz slabs from his warehouse into the parking lot for me to see. ! Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. Thanks for the responses. AhemRight??? My contractor recommended leaving it natural and using a Bona Mega finish which was supposed to dry clear. Never make color selections off a computer screen or printed brochure. G & S gave helpful advice prior to these last two posts that are nasty. 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We have 4 inch white oak installed, but I was reading through your post and have no clue where they are from. @Jonathan Margareten Hi. WebWhite Oak Kitchen Cabinets - Bona NaturalSeal? Some people complain that is hard to live with finish, because for example foot marks while walking barefoot. Bona Sealers on my White Oak !Are you happy with the Satin? The stain alone does not protect the floors, just adds color. Sigh. This only matters for porosity not hardness. 1,303 views Oct 22, 2020 We originally sanded this floor almost 20 years ago, this time the customer wanted a much lighter color. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. 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Not change the raw color much, 2. if anyone else has found a reasonable solution, could you pls share what you did and a few pix? I absolutely love the floors. IntenSeal looked the best to me - darkening it enough to show the differences in the wood, but it seemed more tan/brown than yellow. I answered them in order. It doesn't make sense. We ordered select boards but there were a lot of character boards in the delivery. I'd say the Rubio Smoke 5% was warmer, more golden, while the Unico Smoke was a cooler wheat, but they were very very close. @SJ McCarthy @mtpo I did hire an installer who installed my floor and was supposed to refinish it. The reactive simply pulls the tannins. It has not been sanded or sealed yet so I hope we still like it when its finished. A VERY trchnichally difgicukt finish yonachieve. As for the cost of install$5/sf with FULL SPREAD glue + stain + sanding + finish (materials extra) is on the low side. There are some finishes that are a 'high-gloss satin' but I don't know where Bona Traffic HD satin sits on the glossy or not gloss level. @Moran Blueshtein. If ending up with the typical honey oak is my only choice, then I'd rather just get painted maple/mdfwhich isn't what I want! It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. Im struggling with the same issue thanks! 1 coat per day, buffing every coat for extra smoothness. The webpages say that Classic "highlights the natural color of the wood" while Natural is "designed to retain the appearance of unfinished wood" but having seen the raw, sanded wood which was remarkably gray, I don't know how the latter is possible. Why did you decide to go with Corian? There are a couple places where either a dogs nail or something created a tiny gouge all the way through to the wood - so the Bona is not impermeable. The edge is not as nicely finished as the Corian. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. In Honor Of Design The solid white D e k t o n didnt clean up as well as Neolithic or Corian. I think they are some discussions on houzz regarding that. Thx for sharing. They are not the same color as my white oak, but shes happy with them. How much should I expect the Traffic HD to change the color? It was applied Saturday morning.

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